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lishi · Jan 12, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by Keekles

I think lishi's point is that committing a crime is still a committing a crime, regardless of the magnitude of the crime.

Thus, exploiting a hole in the game for your own benefit is still exploitation, regardless of the magnitude of the exploit.

For me, it would trigger a "Does this guy know how much it's worth?" marker and make me question his legitimacy. But unfortunately, common sense seems to elude most of the player base in MMO games.

well, its was.

There are something is not really necessary to be punish (well stealing the meal of your friend is still bad

) and there a thing who need to be punished.

lishi · Jan 12, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Meta4ik

How does this provide a definition on cheating exactly?

i wasnt.

I was saying you don't need to punish all the cheating.

A definition of cheating can depend more on the person beliefs then some absolute

Meta4ik · Jan 12, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keekles

I think lishi's point is that committing a crime is still a committing a crime, regardless of the magnitude of the crime.

Thus, exploiting a hole in the game for your own benefit is still exploitation, regardless of the magnitude of the exploit.

For me, it would trigger a "Does this guy know how much it's worth?" marker and make me question his legitimacy. But unfortunately, common sense seems to elude most of the player base in MMO games.

This is exactly what a majority of the posts are here are about. pretty much 90% of account have exploited a cheat or exploit of some sort regaurdless of the magnitude.

Arch the · Jan 12, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

All 117 should stay banned and all the dupers that where let back in should have never gotten back in either.

but there were dupers that were not even banned and are still playing with hundreds of armbraces and thousands of ectos.

garethporlest18 · Jan 12, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

The only problem I have is people got banned for this, but not Duncan/Heart of Shiverpeaks/Guild Hall ferrying.

Oh and Rel you fail! Hahahahahaha.

NxAxSxTxY · Jan 12, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Lying and excuses? I just told you how we did it, and i never once said I didnt exploit the game. Just wanted everyone to be informed on what went on because I'm tired of ill-informed posts.

Keekles · Jan 12, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meta4ik

This is exactly what a majority of the posts are here are about. pretty much 90% of account have exploited a cheat or exploit of some sort regaurdless of the magnitude.

Now, think of it this way: A crime is a crime, however, the punishment for the crime will depend on the magnitude of the crime. For example, 1st degree murder, 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, etc.

The lines are clearly drawn in the "real world" situation. However, in a video game, the lines are not as clearly defined, and it is entirely up to the game masters and developers to decide where the line will be drawn, and how the punishment will be delivered.

=== EDITS ===

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Originally Posted by Rexion

to all that got banned:

You say ANet hit you with the ban-stick... but they really gave you a Restart Life coupon.

Very true.

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Originally Posted by Arch the

Can't wait to see what exploit comes next week....

More drama! Hurrah! Actually, don't want more exploits, though I don't think they'll stop popping up.

Rexion · Jan 12, 2008, 01:00 AM // 01:00

to all that got banned:

You say ANet hit you with the ban-stick... but they really gave you a Restart Life coupon.\

EDIT:
LOL at the post below me!

Arch the · Jan 12, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Can't wait to see what exploit comes next week....

garethporlest18 · Jan 12, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by NxAxSxTxY

Lying and excuses? I just told you how we did it, and i never once said I didnt exploit the game. Just wanted everyone to be informed on what went on because I'm tired of ill-informed posts.

"Some people" like being ignorant so they don't have to face the fact that they were wrong. NOTE: That wasn't aimed at you or anyone who got banned but the people like Mister up there.

Meo Yeong · Jan 12, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Arch the

but there were dupers that were not even banned and are still playing with hundreds of armbraces and thousands of ectos.

Yep I know I see people offer 250 armbraces for one of my items. But at least they did something abut it this time.

These people knew what they where doing at this outpost or they where just really really stupid!!!

Economy is shot to hell ever since dupes and supposivly this mallyx trick was happening for months too. I doubt all they got was just 15 armbraces.

Harrier's haste · Jan 12, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Arch the

Can't wait to see what exploit comes next week....

Translation: Can't wait until I get banned and get a new life.

Right?

WarKaster · Jan 12, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I can honestly say I have never exploited anything in this game, or any other game.
Why well for one I get greater satisfaction knowing that I did things on my own with out cheating with out taking any short cuts. I'm not rich in game nor do I care to be. I play because its fun for me.

This was something that anyone playing the game for any length of time regardless of it being a glitch or a hack should have known was not right, and was not intended for normal players to use. I'm not going drag this post on so i will get to my point.

Bottom line is you tried to take the easy way out when you knew there wasn't supposed to be one. You have all admitted it several times.
So man up, take the ban, and move on.

Stealthc · Jan 12, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

The only problem I have is people got banned for this, but not Duncan/Heart of Shiverpeaks/Guild Hall ferrying.

Oh and Rel you fail! Hahahahahaha.

Because these didn't involve hacking the guild wars client to access an inaccessible outpost?

MisterB · Jan 12, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by NxAxSxTxY

Note: This post is meant to clarify what me and a lot of my in-game friends actually involved ourselves in when we were performing this so-called exploit.

I stopped reading after the bolded bit. I even said in my post that I didn't read your whole post. That bolded phrase is both a lie and an excuse in my mind. I've read the reast of your post, and I stand by my original summary. Although your post was more informative, I don't really care about the details of how the exploit was acheived.

Harrier's haste · Jan 12, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarKaster

I can honestly say I have never exploited anything in this game, or any other game.
Why well for one I get greater satisfaction knowing that I did things on my own with out cheating with out taking any short cuts. I'm not rich in game nor do I care to be. I play because its fun for me.

This was something that anyone playing the game for any length of time regardless of it being a glitch or a hack should have known was not right, and was not intended for normal players to use. I'm not going drag this post on so i will get to my point.

Bottom line is you tried to take the easy way out when you knew there wasn't supposed to be one. You have all admitted it several times.
So man up, take the ban, and move on.

CLAP CLAP CLAP, you got it bro. Gj man Can't argue with that lol

hurric · Jan 12, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

so by the above thread you're saying you're guilty of farming 15 armbraces? What more evidence do you need than from the guilty party saying they did it. What's your point?

saying Anet didn't catch all armbrace dupers does not justify what you did.by your logic, next time you do this, don't get caught then.

Meo Yeong · Jan 12, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by Stealthc

Because these didn't involve hacking the guild wars client to access an inaccessible outpost?

ding ding ding we have a winner lol

funny how thee hacking part isnt mentioned bymost of those people complaing about the ban

Dwimmerlaik · Jan 12, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Folks, this wasn't a "bug." It wasn't a "run." It was a blatant, outright hack of the game client. These individuals (and probably, originally, one of them) found the loophole, opened a way to reveal "development outposts" on their in-game map and the ability to map-travel to them. All games have these - they're there for QA/Testing purposes. This is not anywhere close to the same as "LF Ferry Ascalon -> Desert" - it'd be more akin to opening your in-game map and map-travelling to the Desert without ever having been there prior.

Reading the last few pages as well, i don't think many of you've noticed the update from Gaille Grey. Again, update on page 1.

Arch the · Jan 12, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

Yep I know I see people offer 250 armbraces for one of my items. But at least they did something abut it this time.

These people knew what they where doing at this outpost or they where just really really stupid!!!

Economy is shot to hell ever since dupes and supposivly this mallyx trick was happening for months too. I doubt all they got was just 15 armbraces.

They didnt get very many because it took 20mins to get one GEMSET. 15armbraces=15gemsets each thats 225 GEMSETS soo that would be 4500mins or 75 hours.